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« on: November 29, 2011, 10:06:57 PM »

Please Help.  Bought a Beardie on 11/6/11.  At first she was very sweet and would let us pick her up and bathe her.  We have had her just over 3 weeks, and she suddenly started to jump at us to bite when we reach in her cage.  She was fine up until her first shed, after that we can't touch her.  
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« on: November 29, 2011, 10:06:57 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2011, 09:47:07 AM »

Sounds like something frightened her...

Just start back at square one... She's got to have trust again.  Move slowly, from in front of her, or to the side, never from above her .
Just give her time, and continue as suggested above... Good luck.
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« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2011, 11:39:11 AM »

Sudden aggression can be caused by several different things.  Can you describe your set up, UVB and temperatures as well as her access to water or bathing schedule?
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« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2011, 05:35:10 PM »

We were bathing her once a week.  And we would clean her viv at the same time.  She is in a 20 gal. glass tank with screen on top.  Reptile carpet, as substrate, Uva, uvb and infa-red lamps...average temp on hot end is 95-105 cool end 75-85 day time..nighttime both ends range 65-75.  She has a large rock, with and under tank heating pad.  A plastic tree stump like cave house..she usually basks on top of this. Some times the rock.  A water dish and a little plastic lid for food such as Kale, worms, ect.  We feed her crickets, we thought she was eating them all...but, when she shed and we took her out for a bath and to clean up, we found 15 or so in the tree trunk, we had moss inside for her and that is where they were hiding.  We had her in a little container with warm water, my husband came in with the tree trunk and crickets went everywhere in the bathroom.  She has not wanted handled since...mind you we were sold these crickets and told they were small, and we thought they would be small enough..they are too big, so we stopped giving her those.  Last night we wanted to make sure there weren't any "stray" crickets in there with her overnight.  We turned off her lamps and she let me pick her up, however, she was running around like crazy wouldn't be still, and while my daughter was holding her, she "Nina" the beardie, jumped on my back ran up my shoulder and arm to get back in her viv. Btw we haven't bathed her in a week, because of the aggression.  We do mist her twice a day.  Her viv is in my 14 year old daughters room, I was conserned about loud music, we have stopped that, but, still she won't be the little lover bug she was before.
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« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2011, 05:56:53 PM »

This is Miss Nina before the aggression started.  Lounging on her tree trunk.
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« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2011, 10:21:12 AM »

infa-red lamps and under tank heating pads aren't good for dragons.  It sounds like her temperatures coupled with her discomfort from shedding was playing a big part here (my guess is that they were climbing in certain spots to an uncomfortable level).  The larger size of the crickets, and the fact that they were hiding in her viv could also contribute to the stress that added to her aggressions.

How are you measuring your temperatures?  Base line temp should be taken (with a digital therm or temp gun) 3 hours after the lights come on in the morning.  This gives the enclosure time to warm up, stabilize, and balance with the ambient temperature of the room, then maintain it's average temperature.  Dragons don't have many sensory nerves on the underside of their bodies and under tank heaters have been known for shorting out and causing severe burns.  If you would like to use it for some added heat at night, wrap it around the side of the enclosure where she can't lay on it.  A dragons's health and digestion is directly affected by the heat it gets from above and stimulated by bright white light.  They can see red lights at night which also disrupts their sleep pattern.

You might void the kale from the diet, and use foods from the chart at www.beautifuldragons.com Nutrional page.

One more thing..........her environment has changed radically from where you got her to your house. (thats a big jump up in most cases) and it sorta knocks them off a pretty level playing field.  In the evening, just around sun down she will become more relaxed and much calmer like last night.  It is a good time to hold and familiarize her with people.  Then gradually move into her more waking hours. 

Good luck and let us know how it's going.
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« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2011, 07:34:33 PM »

The heating pad is under the glass, and the substrate and the rock is on top of that, the rock is the only thing in direct contact with Nina, we have a digital temp. gun and the rock never has been above 100 deg.  We changed back to smaller crickets and that makes her much happier, noticed this morning she still needs to shed off her tail...has let me pet her.  Thanks for your suggestions.  I think reducing the loud music in the room has helped alot.
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« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2011, 04:35:21 AM »

Thanks for your help, Miss Nina is doing much better, she still can be a little skittish, but is a much happier dragon. Grin
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